In this January 2022 episode of the Offline podcast, host Jon Favreau talks to artist and author Jenny Odell about the benefits of unplugging, being less productive, and grounding yourself in the present moment.

Social media and instant messaging apps have significantly changed the way humans interact and spend their leisure time.

With the internet readily available at any given time, there is always something to do.

But what are the negative side-effects of always having something to do?

Are there any benefits to doing nothing, despite what social media seems to be telling us?

Offline with Jon Favreau is a podcast devoted to slowing down, unplugging from the fast pace of Twitter and social media algorithms, and reconsidering how the online world is shaping our thoughts and decisions.

In this episode from January 2022, Favreau talks to Jenny Odell, multi-disciplinary artist and author of How to Do Nothing.

Subtitled Resisting the Attention Economy, Odell's book explores how social media has commodified our attention and why we need to take a step back, be less productive, and embrace the present moment.