Podcast HackEsther Perel: Loneliness, Sex, and Online DatingBy The Diary of a CEO, Steven Bartlett, Esther Perel
In a Nutshell
On this June 2025 episode of the Diary of a CEO podcast, host Steven Bartlett speaks to world-renowned relationship therapist Esther Perel about the deterioration of our social skills and sex lives, and how we can improve both.

Favorite Quote
Attraction is part of a story … If you think that you're just going to watch Netflix for three hours, scroll on your phone for another two, and then turn around and say, 'oh, you are so attractive and I'm so turned on by you' … This is not the way that it works.
Esther Perel
Introduction
According to sex and relationship therapist Esther Perel, we are experiencing 'social atrophy' — we struggle to exercise our ability to connect with others.
Perel is a world-renowned clinical therapist, author, and consultant whose work spans four decades.
The Diary of a CEO podcast is hosted by entrepreneur and investor Steven Bartlett and explores diverse subjects including business, psychology, and optimization.
On this June 2025 episode, Bartlett dives into the world of sex and relationships with Perel, and asks how we can fight the challenges posed by monogamy, dating apps, and the loss of social connection.
Here are the 3 key insights from this Hack
- 1.People incorrectly blame dating apps for being single
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